DE BELLIS ANTIQUITATIS 2.2 PDF

Buy Dba Simple Ancient and Medieval Wargaming Rules Including Dbsa and Dba by John Curry, Phil Barker, Richard De Bellis Magistrorum Militum. Public. De Bellis Antiquitatis DBA. Welcome to De Bellis Antiquitatis. A community for all things related to the DBx family of games including; DBA, DBM, DBMM. Welcome to De Bellis Antiquitatis. A community for all Nice little intro to the rules of DBA Photo. DBA DBA First Impressions! Photo. DBA First.

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Vis, I think I agree with your comments more than others, like you I think I am what’s called a heretic who likes 2. Secondly it covers Blade and Bow combinations which historialy proved very effective aganist foot.

I thought the ability of Long Bow and Cross Bow to destroy Knights on ties in close combat was supposed to reflect better close up factors, including stakes for the archers. In fact, the historical evidence indicates that those armed with long polearms were far better able to support missile-armed troops than sword armed troops. It sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t he struggles mightly with classing English archers for instance sometimes claiming they are heavy infantry.

So if your an archer you want a big tough spear next to you esp if fighting mounted foes. In other words, if one is prepared to dismiss the opinions of professional historians’ analysis of primary sources then just how much atiquitatis should one give the amateurs?! Will have to get my medieval combat fix that way!

Now in 3rd edition. If I had my way with DBA I’d at least allow spear and pike to support bows in the same manner as blades. So often we’ve heard that the rulebook was just full of rules and army Lists and didn’t anttiquitatis any eye candy. I thought Homildon was largely about English Bw versus Scots Pk, but maybe the famous quote says otherwise?

Combat is resolved per-element, in the order desired by the active player. At Agincourt the French allowed them to pull up stakes and advance a short distance while preparing for battle. The only thing that doesn’t make sense and which nobody has addressed nor will they is why Blades are granted a SPECIAL form of side support for Bows while Spears and Pikes do not receive that special side support benefit.

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A tricky historical formation problem solved by 3. Be interested to know if this happened and, if so, how it turned out. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page. Its meant to simulate shield walls where a solid line of linked shields often proved quite stout aganist foot — until broken which the rules reflect.

De Bellis Antiquitatis – Wargames Rules for Ancient and Medieval Battles (Version 2.2)

Even longbows could not halt a mounted charge without other some other factor contributing to their success whether it was supporting troops, stakes, or terrain such as muddy fields to slow the cavalry and delay their passage through the beaten zone.

Views Read Edit View history. In most cases, boxed games and box sets do not come with dice. On the other hand, bow and pike will fight best with the Pikes in a block, to chew apart heavy foot, whil the bows can help keep lights and mounted off the pike flanks. Tom and Joe cited themselves as the secondary sources who read primary sources. Tom dismisses secondary sources such as Jones and Rogers West Point military historian whom I cited above.

Good analogy Warhorse, but a little off. Due to the nature of DBA’s combat system, DBA is often criticized as being over-“geometric”, as elements are matched up in precise ways, and base widths must match up with some precision. Tactically, this just didn’t happen a whole lot. Not sure about Joe’s background but I know Tom has actually fired a longbow he bellia some! Ahtiquitatis have them “fight” and if they get a negative they get to evade. And why would veteran soldiers across Europe use spear, pikes, and other pole-arms to resist cavalry instead of swords alone?

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It seems that you are not.

First all elements in DBA support each other. Mixing bow with Pike formations was not. A “minus” sign indicates the opposite. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.

At Agincourt the French allowed them to pull up stakes and advance a short distance while preparing antqiuitatis battle. To compare apples to antiquitatiss Those veterans belllis knew better than modern wargamers! In the event of a tie at the end of bound, play continues until the end of a bound where one player has lost more than the opponent.

On the other hand, a Ps would be indirectly weaker whenever it is not in rear edge contact with a friendly element it could interpenetrate. An army consists of up to roughly a dozen units, classified as Blades, Warband, Knights and so forth. Hail Caesar also has some fans.

There’s a really good book on this topic: Boardgame counters are punched, unless noted. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Each army is composed of 12 elements standswith several figures fixed upon each one. Wargame rule sets Miniatures games.

antiquitatiss It certainly seems to have been a guiding light for Tactica and even DBx philosophically. At Crecy for instance the English did not use stakes, the ground was open and the weather fine, but still the archers stood off three massed charges of French knights. This article needs additional citations for verification.

Yes, the English dismounted. The English seem to have gotten the idea of stakes from the Ottomons antiquitstis it may have been a response to more effective horse armor. You seem to have figured out what historians have been debating for years. Spear and Pike do not. What is the rule supposed to represent in that case?